2 Peter 1:15 and following say For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. April 2015 am Universal-museum Joanneum in Graz (Schild von Steier, Beiheft 8 / Forschungen zur geschichtlichen Landeskunde der Steiermark 79) Archologie in sterreich 1938 1945 Danner Salzburg. Read Dr. Enns full CV, B.S. Hey Ed; I can definitely understand what youre saying and thats why many people go thru many religions while on this path of truth. Legitttttttt. Peter Enns' latest book is written in praise of question marks, especially those that crowd our minds when God goes missing. But, that we ourselves interact, relate, care, love is even more important. Yep. I find much of the tradition of Christianity over the last 2,000 yearsand most acutely in the generations of my life in Americato have failed what I consider to be the best centerings of the apocalyptic hope of Jesus of Nazareth. I find cultural differences to be fascinating and rich sources in discovering what is possible within the human experience. Contemplation is apprehension uncluttered by thoughtparticularly preconception and analysis. I want to be like you. Abstrak Permasalahan dalam tulisan ini terletak pada isu doktrin eskatologi tentang kerajaan seribu tahun, khususnya dalam pandangan dispensasionalisme dengan covenant theology. For, everything is under the one and the same law-the law of transformation and decline. as yours. As we come to the end of this year, we begin a new theme for the Daily Meditations. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. As is knowledge of Lord Brahma, Lord Vishnu, and Lord Shiva. Polls, Statistics and other Data . . I presume you are referring to Islam in your final sentence? 1 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Got you. If this is my basis, Im as comfortable (maybe more comfortable) with a Great Spirit of native Americans as I am with a YHWH of Israel. Such a person in fact believes Him to exist in Parts. Mitchel Modine is an Old Testament scholar who works at Asia-Pacific Nazarene Theological Seminary. Bradley Jersak (Author), Peter Enns (Foreword) 167 ratings 4.5 on Goodreads 141 ratings See all formats and editions Kindle $14.99 Read with Our Free App Audiobook $0.00 Free with your Audible trial Paperback $16.55 8 Used from $10.79 25 New from $13.67 Great on Kindle Great Experience. . While specific sins against a particular God, prophet, holy book, holy place, or sacrament, are as diverse as could be. Faced with the incoherence of a fundamentalist/evangelical reaction to modernity, I have no problem accepting Pascals Wager and embracing your mystical/existential explanation. An Atheist Evolutionist Asks a Good Question of Dr. Peter Enns October 22, 2012 It seems that Young Earth Creationists are not the only ones who find BioLogos' attempt to "reconcile science and faith" lacking. I do. 2. There can be various degrees of certainty, of course. As is knowledge of the Theotokos. You will know whom I mean, Atheism may be comparatively popular with God himself, When a pious visitor inquired sweetly, Henry, have you made your peace with God? he replied, We have never quarreled., Henry David Thoreau as quoted in Henry David Thoreau: What Manner of Man? I have met lifelong atheists who never got high on Jesus in their youth like you or I did. Do you know many others like yourselves? Israelite history; Old Testament and ancient Near East; Old Testament theology; biblical theology; wisdom literature; Second Temple Judaism and the New Testament. There are also cases of people who were converted to Christianity after suffering drug or alcohol addiction, but later they realized Christianity was their new drug and gave that up too, and felt BETTER for having done so: If there is still to be a link to truth there at all. . I think there are multiple reality tunnels and people make many different claims concerning their personal experiences. Left the Ministry. We're raising 50k for our campaign. Indeed, it is a way of knowing that has been championed as part of the development of culture in the Western tradition, but to pigeon hole the method as somehow distinctively Western is to lose something about its universality in a universe that significantly appears to exhibit fundamental uniformity. And I also can grok the paradoxical Essence of a Triune God, the kind of God allowing himself to be humbled and broken in kenotic sacrifice as an example of a new Way of Being, in hope of bringing forth a Kingdom. . And I would suggest this hypothetical is realized in all actuality within spiritual perception. Although, both people and God can be disappointing in ways myself included. Which does seem not tranrational but rather irrational. In fact, if comparisons between spiritual experience seem to demonstrate anything, it is that perhaps the only objectively true thing we can say about it is that it is a very unreliable means of experience vulnerable to various illusions of reality. The only reason I could see us being worried about being wrong about a certain path/religion/idea/concept would be because God (our Creator) might reject us if we chose the wrong path. Such as I would imagine the Eastern Orthodox who are known for such practice and perspective on faith. 2020 Peter Danner. He was dismissed as O.T. Regardless of Paul's (faulty, through no fault of his own) view of human origins, three very important elements remain in his theology, despite the acceptance of evolution: 1. @peteenns. In The Sin of Certainty: Why God Desires Our Trust More than our "Correct" Beliefs, Enns argues that certainty (especially the theological variety) is inappropriate, dangerous and unbiblical. The Quran Chapter 112, Things are compound elements atoms etc, made of parts. By Peter K. Enns I have published three books: Hijacking the Agenda (with Chris Witko, Nate Kelly and Jana Morgan), Incarceration Nation, and Who Gets Represented? immediacy. Here might be some: Healing, forgiveness, graciousness, redemption, justice, protection, universality. And we do this not by relying on our experiences at the subjective level as some private matter , but we take what can be shared about that subjective experience and put it on the table for all to look at and compare. Peter Enns is Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, Pennsylvania. I agree that post-enlightenment empiricism is never going to lead to genuine interaction with the creator, but what about prayer? I think it is safe to say that much of my academic journey has been a process of synthesizing these (and other) influences in my life. One who holds such a faith cannot form a true concept of God, he is *IGNORANT* and will always try to believe in some *creation* of his *imagination* as his god. It is based on direct and personal encounter. But I see no reason to believe that Jesus of Nazareth has been, is, or will be the means of grace or hope of glory. Do you think JFK could have won with that campaign statement? In asking does God exist?, Ive heard it said that two very large questions are revealed or not. 298 . Magic is not real therefore magical deities are impossible. Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies, Back to Undergraduate Theology Department, Graduate & Online Undergraduate Admissions, Palmer Theological Seminary and Palmer College. Peter Eric Enns (born January 2, 1961) is an American Biblical scholar and theologian. Usually we treat eye-witness testimonies as valid proofs of an experience, especially when they corroborate key elements of the same story (granted one can misinterpret what their senses tell them). Presume? He was after all, our first RC President. I get your post. For instance, some have hypothesized the benefit of aggressive agency detection. You are presuming that I am naive about other religions. After writing "Analysis of Rachel Held Evan's Book "Inspired" Part 1: Introduction" yesterday I noticed that Rachel Held Evans sees Peter Enns as a mentor. Their experiences of the numinous, or visions or miracles also range far and wide, including the claims of Catholics who see the sun dance, or claim saints cured them or just the saints bones, or the visionary experiences of native Americans, New Agers, UFO abductees (whatever they are experiencing), and wide range of different NDE experiences that dont seem to point in the direction of any one religion being the only true one. I think there is a model there where the subjective, but real experience of God is the starting point for understanding the perceptual equipment, which will help us to acknowledge the existence of a real Being that makes the subjective states or experiences real. Most people seem to have never seen or heard a literal voice of God like Abraham or Noah allegedly received. Thoughts? Its not utopia but Ill take it. I am sincerely interested in your thoughts on two ideas. Rather, knowledge of God is described by terms like: participation Now I understand that that rational certainty is a gift from God, but would you say that 1 John 5:13 is false or irrational or not to be trusted? By some measure, through Jesus of Nazareth and the ensuing religion of Christianity, a longing has been fulfilled; there has been great participation. In fact, there are now around two billion adherents to the faith. to the barricades of heaven where Im from. You can experience a spiritual longing, connectedness, peace, transformation, serenity, boundless compassion, and so on. I know others mileage may vary. Peter Enns Height He is a man of above-average stature. Thanks for an honest perspective which does not offer more than can be proven. Thanks for this post. I also visited Westminster Seminary in my early 20s and purchased some books in the store there, caught a glimpse of Cornelius Van Til, and later I exchanged emails with Paul Seely on biblical cosmology, a WTS graduate. Find it on Amazon: http://amzn.to/19X9WC7Find it at CBD: http://bit.ly/1dnBcesPeter Enns discusses the inerrancy of the Bible as an often contentious topic. In both stories, the boat comes to rest on a mountain and birds are sent out to find land. Try the works of John Hick, former Evangelical who became a fascinating philosopher of religion and sought a common transcendental basis for them all. "what Genesis says about Adam and the consequences of his actions does not seem to line up with the universal picture that Paul paints in Romans and 1 Corinthians []. But you do know that you know because your knowing has a depth and immediacy to it that is never present in simply knowingabout thingseven merely knowing about God. But our access to the world of the Spirit is made possible by the existence of our own spirit. Alot of us have reached the point where the only left left to do is bring people together despite our differences. Read Dr. Enns onThe Bible for Normal People Historically, I understand the Mystics predate the Enlightenment or Modernity, but I think it was Friedrich Schleiermacher who cut a swath through the rough underbrush of Empiricism to find a spiritual path that was immediate and subjective. Many say, Lord, Lord. Small is the gate and narrow is the road. As for your books title, The Sin of Certainty, you seem pretty certain that sin exists, though I suspect humans dont really need thatll added theological term since it seems more like a metaphor for any selfish behavior people of all religions or none already view in a negative fashion. One atheist and evolutionist, Dr. Jerry Coyne, believes very strongly that evolution and Christianity are not at all compatible. Even Yale was founded by some conservative ministers displeased at the growing moderation, liberalism and theological excesses as they say it, happening at Havard. The intersection of these (with a lot of other stuff thrown in there for good measure, such as Barths furious response to 19th century liberals on issues related to mediated/unmediated experience) was very compelling in my theological studies and has been fascinating to observe on a practical level in pastoral ministry in the conservative south, especially in this political and cultural moment. Joyfully I can say that as a conservative Presbyterian, some of my closest friends are devout Roman Catholics. What of our spiritual experiences then? As is knowledge of Heavenly Father. I think the proper locus of religious conviction can help one find meaning in a religion better than help one find a religion. Were two thousand years in. Evidence can be internal, which whether or not you rationally elaborate upon or take the direct perceptive route nonetheless still falls into that domain. Show Notes This episode was . Peter is 61 years old. However, today, philosophers who reject Cartesian or Substance Dualism acknowledge that subjective states like color, pain, and thoughts are objectively real using empirical tools. The reason many do not talk more about these issues are beyond me (I say that knowing that many do in fact talk about these tensions Pete is one of them). It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. Not really. You made some very good points. How could God (if He does exist) reject anyone who was honestly searching? God means many different things to people. Their experience will be every bit as powerful, transformative, transcendent, etc. If we hold to the same manner in which we share any other experience with those around us, we would ge bound to accept this. There are multiple (a lot!) Eye-witness accounts on Mount Sinai, the Mount of transfiguration, the road to Damascus and on and on. Pete Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is the Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, Pennsylvania, and co-host of The Bible for Normal People podcast. And there are also periods of painful disillusionment and depression that look like withdrawal symptoms that even Christians suffer after at least partially self-Inducing and sustaining a high on Jesus for years. Depending on how you interpret Gods word, I hope He is not good to it in the sense of damning nonbelievers to an eternity of torment. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. When you know something by means of such encounter, you may not be able to express it verbally, at least not in a compelling, coherent, or exhaustive manner. straight into the night our hearts were flung But how is it that you still believe in God? the way is the path of becoming a new person because one is allowing God to lead you in a sense. Dr. Peter Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. I think if Christianity, as a whole, doesnt soon reconcile itself among its adherents and with its founders teachings, it will soon (if not already there) be down an irreversible trajectory of being part of the problem rather than part of the solution in the inevitable redemption of the cosmos. How sure are you that those are eyewitness accounts. With this, I think wed not only find less conflict but more hope realized. (2 Peter 3:9), he does not force his love on anyone. Eastern University does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national and ethnic origin in its educational policies, admissions policies, scholarships, loan programs, athletic and other programs. As Read Post The Evangelical Mind February 5, 2013 Category: General Tags: Doubt, Peter Enns, The Mind, The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind, Theology, Wisdom Which I think is the case, but I dont want to speak for Ed. Peter Enns does it again!' Richard Rohr, author of Falling Upward For many Christians, the Bible is a how-to manual filled with literal truths about belief that must be strictly followed. Enns believes that there are many different views of God and that we human beings cannot tell which is the correct ones, and that it is better that we do not know for certain than that we do know for certain. Just trust in Him. Proud men who reject His call are incredibly stupid and foolish beyond measure. At Eastern Since 2012. And I am not sure about the analogy concerning trusting your wife, unless you wake up everyday lying literally next to a flesh and blood Jesus who literally speaks with you or even makes you breakfast some mornings. And we can also look at those experiences, and see if there is an element of illusion about them. Also, your point about eyewitness testimony is inaccurate. In this episode of The Bible for Normal People, Daniel Kirk joins Pete and Jared to explain the major themes in the book of Romans, why the Romans Road view of salvation is insufficient, and how a focus on God's righteousness through Jesus Christ shaped Paul's vision of harmony between Jews and Gentiles. (Isnt this another example of a way of knowing?). (As ridiculous as it may sound in our context) I was on a run and received a word of prophecy to deliver to an old friend. Well that seems to me to be more of a way of guessing then? No- before the 70s it was safe for white little girls and boys to walk down the street correct yourself- thee was never a time in any country where there was absolute peace- even in the Bible. And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. Scrivenings Christians depression, suicide. Often times it seems to me like Christians are busy trying to convince themselves of something they really dont believe, and so they put on their vibrant face, dress in their Sunday best, blare their contemporary Christian music songs, and speak with forcefulness, to appear vibrant to the world, because thats how they read its sposed to be according to the Bible, etc. Differing, I believe there are grounds for excluding ones own or other faiths. Of course, it helps that I have absolutely no expectations of him whatsoever. Catholics see Angels, Mary and Jesus, Protestants usually just see Angels and Jesus, and one Protestant apparently saw a talking Bible in his NDE, while another claims to have been to heaven dozens of times and seen images from everything In Revelation, and Mormons have their own NDE bulletin, Betty Eade had a bestseller about meeting a Mormon Jesus who was not God, universalist NDEs, then there are Hindu and Buddhist visions and NDEs, like seeing a talking Buddhist turtle god, while native Americans have totem animal visions, and New Agers and some other folks claims to have seen Angels, UFOs, aliens of different species. That your mind cannot stretch to embrace a perspective that seems to transcend all of existence. As is knowledge of Allah. Something that transcends your petty thoughts as to self, or day to day concerns, and fills you with so much love and gratitude and beauty that if feels your heart will burst.
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