However, you didnt answer my question: do you acknowledge that the Textus Receptus is a work of Textual Criticism? It has nothing to do with a woman not being in subjection to male authority. Its almost certainly extremely close, but its almost certainly not identical. Further, lets tip this against the Majority Text. Had some armed foe said these things he would have fought him to the last breath; but this man did not deny, and had no word of scorn. The WEBs over her own head betrays a feminist bent by the translators, and looking at some of the their footnotes in other places confirms this bias. First, remember that the worst manuscript at the 5th generation has exactly and only 5 mistakes (one added every generation). First of all, no scholar disputes the fact that Erasmus had studied variant readings . F.H.A. In the end, the greatest strength of the Critical Text is also its greatest weakness: mans involvement. In the second edition, he changed the title to Novum Testamentum omne, and used an additional manuscript for the compilation. He also raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavens in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might display the immeasurable riches of his grace through his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. I like the no copyright, but I wouldnt quote it or use it. But God, being rich in mercy, for his great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus; But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved); And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. He also says that it uses a different Old Testament text than the KJV. One appears to be of mediocre quality, the other of good quality. Meanwhile, North Africa and the East were conquered by Muslims. More on that in a moment. He returned to the monastery some 15 years later, partially in hopes of recovering the manuscript. You can argue that it didnt matter for later editions because they were restored from the Aldine edition but the Aldine edition itself was based on Erasmus first edition so, Very helpful and thorough. (I confess I skimmed through parts) That one sentence defines a whole doctrine the Confessional Position for millions of Christians. Its worth noting that Codex Sinaiticus is far longer than 130 pages. I appreciate you so much for putting all this work into such an important topic. It bears traces of careless transcription in every page. Further, the Bible doesnt live or abide because its a book. Lift it up, be not afraid; His work was largely ignored during his lifetime but the English Standard Version largely agrees with his translation. JavaScript is disabled. But I could not get them to yield up possession of the remainder. 19. And I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. Ecclesiastes 3:14. In any case, there are no NT readings based on the critical text in the NKJVwell, maybe one that looked suspicious. The only limitation is if someone change the words in the WEB to create a new translation. I first read the NKJV cover to cover 2 years ago and then last year I discovered the NASB which I am now reading cover to cover. This accidental skipping could account for a very significant portion of the longer Byzantine Textual Variants. Some even go so far as to say that other Bibles/translations are heretical and you cant truly be saved with them. The blurb said, in Latin, "This is the text that is received by all.". Notice, Like a Shepherd, appears to be an obvious reference to Jesus given the context. God bless! Very few if any scholars would argue that the Majority wins all the time. Remember The Word is one of Jesus main titles, especially in the writings of John. O Jerusalem, Unbelief in the Doctrine of Preservation is a weakness that can wedge a crack in faith in the Word of God. 6 The voice said, Cry out! I especially loved that you point out that this is a less than 1% issue that affects no essential Christian doctrine, even as Bart Ehrman has admitted. Textus Receptus: Greek Editions of the Textus Receptus English Translations of the Textus Receptus Textus Receptus Bible Information Because if you apply the same reasoning to Messianic prophecies in Psalms, it will show that those texts actually apply to David, not Jesus, etc. They knew clearly which ones were the true Words of God. contains the word text How can I claim modern Bibles (well, the Greek/Hebrew from which they are translated) are entirely inerrant unless I have an inerrant text to translate from? The outstanding feature of family 35 is the consistency between manuscripts. ( her own are supplied and not in the original but like the KJV and the NKJV versions makes it clear that the authority or symbolic authority is placed on or over the womans own head). And, finally, when do you hope to see the church rediscover what you believe they have lost? The Patriarchal Text and the Textus Receptus upon which the King James is based are pretty close most of the time but there are some . Heres the same verse properly translated, in an (unfinished) translation thats fast becoming my favorite. (Again, in that less than 1% where it matters) Notice they only tend to. The table below shows the texts from which Erasmus assembled his Greek New Testament. However, dont trust the English there, look at the shorthand underneath the English words. Thank you again. So each correct manuscript will always spawn 2 more correct manuscript, but also 1 incorrect manuscript will spawn 2 more incorrect manuscripts (and no correct manuscripts). Erasmus originally assembled his Greek text based on 7 Greek manuscripts and published it in 1516 as the Novum Instrumentum omne. To be sure thats not politically correct, but thats what the passage is saying and the Bible is very consistent on this. The NKJV does go with some different readings in the OT but there is so much better original language scholarship today. It makes sense, but that doesnt mean its what happened. The best translations article is much more practical. Please dont mistake my question for a mere rhetorical one (though its partially that), If perfect preservation is the case, then thats THE question that matters most regarding Scripture. Additionally, That question above is the whole problem for me, or at least most of it. NASB95 and NKJV are the two translations that I recommend, see my article on Bible translations for more detailed info on why. MT advocates would probably say even with all the destruction, good manuscripts would push out bad. The 1% argument almost makes it seem not to matter between the TR and Alexandrian-focused textual lines but maybe that only applies to the NASB 1995 for reasons you indicated in the other article? I assume the author of this article knows that the Hebrew word in question is also translated correctly every one of them. Not brining this out may have been an error in thorough study, or intentional bias. The Elzevir 1633 text promised just that in their marketing. There may well be one, but I dont know which one. The Johannine Comma of 1 John 5:7-8: Added or Removed? We have it incredibly accurately. Thats only a 2400 word difference (1.7%), and just two variants (the ending of Mark and the story of the woman caught in adultery) account for a significant portion of that difference. truthas a body of ethical or religious knowledge, 1516 (Erasmus 1st Novum Instrumentum omne), 1522 (Erasmus 3rd Novum Testamentum omne), 1550 (Robert Estienne (Stephanus) 3rd Editio Regia. This author is completely unaware of any proof that scribes preferred to add rather than subtract. Up until then, the original NIV was my Bible. (Like the Johannine Comma, which the Majority text doesnt include). Also, I am building my book collection and I wanted to see if you recommended any books that translate some of these Greek texts that should be considered when translating new bibles. Actually, we know it did we just dont know if it happened with errors. On the afternoon of this day I was taking a walk with the steward of the convent in the neighbourhood, and as we returned, towards sunset, he begged me to take some refreshment with him in his cell. Does the difference affect doctrine or anything, When comparing how the NT authors quoted the OT it seems they favored the LXX, most quotes being taken word for word from the LXX, , , , , . Please can you help? I deal with people, mostly Jews, who see errors in the New Testament, so I must know how to defend Gods words. Erasmus Text Receptus maintained a text form thats similar to the Byzantine Majority Text, but theyre definitely not the same. But what if a very passionate scribe decided to make a lot of copies but what if he was copying from the manuscript with the mistake? The fact that they share a unique characteristic makes it more likely they came from the same general area. He wasnt the only one who thought this either: In this connection, it is worth noting that the translators of the King James Version did not follow exclusively any single printed edition of the New Testament in Greek. The Web sticks closer to the ASV text and the NASB says in its preface that it was following only the spirit and intent of the ASV. Thy word istruefromthe beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgmentsendurethfor ever. And gently lead those who are with young. I recommend the version sold by New England Bible Sales for around $25. 18. (Not a big deal for you, Im sure, but Im just s single mom of three with a thirst for the Word.) Textus Receptus readings generally provide stronger doctrine. 8 For man didnt come from woman, but woman from man. The Bible is clear about the Doctrine of Preservation. In the end, the entire Confessional Position can be boiled down to a single question: This is the issue for the Confessional Position. I believe the Verbatim Identicality position was an unfortunate overreach in response to text critics in the late 1800s. (Sir Knight of the Splendid Way, W.E. His translation can be purchased for about $10. David, you start out with a possible assumption and elevate it to obstacles and odds that need to be overcome. Not at all. This isnt altogether uncommon with ancient manuscripts, but it does mean some places represent a 10th or 11th century version, not a 4th century version. The [fourth-century] text of Chrysostom and other Syrian [= Byzantine] fathers [is] substantially identical with the common late text, The fundamental text of late extant Greek MSS generally is beyond all question identical with the dominant Antiochian [= Byzantine] text of the second half of the fourth century The Antiochian Fathers and the bulk of extant MSS must have had in the greater number of extant variations a common original either contemporary with or older than our oldest extant MSS, Introduction to the New Testament in the Original Greek: With Notes on Selected Readings by Westcott & Hort. (as long as youre making a prophetic application) Is that what youre saying? If you only include the Greek manuscripts, then indeed the Byzantine Text type is the majority. God bless you, brother. It goes into just as much depth as this article, and even includes short reviews on the most popular Bible translations at the end.). The British museum has 694 pages, which is over half the original length. (And many of these variants would be spelling errors. 25 But the Word of the Lord (Jesus again) endures forever.. (Majority Text advocates disagree, but well look at their objection later.) Further, all of these manuscripts which can be called the Textus Receptus contain unique readings not found in any other manuscripts whatsoever. Once the research was done, I just needed to type it up, which I do anyway to organize my thoughts. There remains a persistent bias against the Byzantine Text type in the Critical text, which is very unfortunate. Byzantine type was the pauline and arabic diatessaron of the texttype, by them when he prayed more, version of alexandrian text is the. So the Majority Text changes very significantly when you include just the other versional manuscripts. which is every-thing in red. You can double check me by looking at Psalm 12:7 in an interlinear Bible. In 1881, Brooke Westcott and Fenton Hort published The New Testament in the Original Greek, which is the grandfather of the Greek Critical Text that most modern Bibles translate from. By the 5th generation, you can see that the number of manuscripts with errors outnumber the ones without errors nearly 2-1. (The long is discarded because of its poor quality) In the New Testament its the complete opposite, except the discarding of the poor quality of the Western Text. They are inextricably linked. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Im no stranger to this subject but am far from an expert. Great attitude also, I appreciate your openness. The critical te. If you look at the earlier papyrus, theres even more singular readings. 2. I also cover the other major verses used to support the doctrine of preservation. They are indeed wonderful. Despite the numerous Textual Variants between them, theres an interesting theory about their origin. I dont think so. that errors never disappear but instead are copied down through the generations. They range from the alteration of a single letter to the insertion of whole sentences. He found the old testament was accurate. (almost perfect, and with small changes in word order for improved readability): But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressionsit is by grace you have been saved. Please dont mistake the one for the other. . I suspect this would get you pretty close to the Textus Receptus. (He was the primary editor of the modern Critical Text, which is the basis for nearly all modern translations. We know God preserved the scriptures because even in the New Testament, over 99% of the Textual Variants have no effect on anything. Rather, decisions in textual criticism must be worked out afresh, passage by passage (the local principle). he defends the idea that the septuagint must be reestablished as the inspired old testament of the orthodox church and accepts at the same time the fact that the hebrew text (the masoretic text) might be included into orthodox biblical studies, but with the proviso that it suffered jewish deformations against the christians; "the superiority of ( a symbol of and her are supplied and not in the original but states the obvious that the head covering is a symbol and that it is placed on the womans (her) head. However, in several dozen readings he notes that no printed Greek text corresponds to the English of the Authorized Version, which in these places derives directly from the Vulgate. Whats the Best Bible Translation? Perhaps compare it to the same impact Jesus meant when He said, It is finished.. That is just sad. It might sound simplistic, but theres a good mathematical reason and a good common sense reason behind it. <p>Novum Testamentum Graece / Greek New Testament In . Taken seriously, we may be 50 years from new discoveries that will lead us to believe there are tremendous errors and human mistakes that have been passed down. Otherwise I really like it. And so saying, he took down from the corner of the room a bulky kind of volume, wrapped up in a red cloth, and laid it before me. Which single document/manuscript is perfectly preserved? I stand alone on the Word of God, Thank you for your labor of love for the body of Christ. Now, lets look at Isaiah 40 in greater context, and youll see its clearly a Messianic passage. Again, they differ in ~2000 places. Irenaeus in the 2nd century, though not in Alexandria, made a similar admission on the state of corruption among New Testament manuscripts. This was helpful. Lets back up to get some context. So in the text types of Homer, you have: Among scholars, theres little doubt that the medium text type of Homer is the original, while the short is the result of scholarly revision. Textual Variants that are NOT meaningful, even if viable. The Alexandrian text type is slightly shorter than the Byzantine text type. . ), Westcott & Hort preferred to take manuscripts they deemed as more reliable (read: early and Alexandrian) and rely of their readings more. Theres no other evidence for this so take with a grain of salt but they are the only two manuscripts that share that characteristic. What are Gods actual words? Again as shown in the article, there are no less than 27 different versions, so which one should we use? Our opinions must be subjected to the word of God. The quality (or lack thereof) of Sinaticus and Vaticanus (also how did Westcott/Hort reconcile differences between the two codices) The Septuagint was most probably translated by Origen in about 250 AD. Its not your work, its His work. The Muslims destroyed Biblical manuscripts as a matter of course, meaning very few manuscripts survived from the regions they controlled. Globe and Mail, July 31, 2010 Accessed March 26, 2011, 5. The WEB reads like a smooth ASV in the New Testament. And More Importantly, Why? This Koine Greek New Testament is the Greek Edition of Elzevir, and on. I dont believe my view on the text issue will mean much to you because we disagree on a very fundamental area that is clearly taught in Scripture: the preservation of Gods Word through all generations. EDIT: I finally got around to writing an article on the topic, which you can read here: Does 1 Corinthians 11 Require Women To Wear Head Coverings. I simply do not believe that. You have become another critic and not a defender of the faith. And by the way, I do mean near perfect agreement even according to Westcott & Hort. Parallels with Textual Criticism of Non-Biblical works, Removing Copies from the Stream of Transmission. He writes inChurch History(VIII:2): All these things were fulfilled in us, when we saw with our own eyes the houses of prayer thrown down to the very foundations, andthe Divine and Sacred Scriptures committed to the flamesin the midst of the market-places, and the shepherds of the churches basely hidden here and there, and some of them captured ignominiously, and mocked by their enemies. Other major Textual Variants include the story of the woman caught in Adultery (Pericope Adulterae for short) and the last 12 verses in Marks Gospel. The myth of Erasmus back translating is based on a misconstruction (to put it in the kindest possible light) of statements made by Erasmus in his Apologia addressed to Stunica of the Complutensian team, in his Annotations to the Apocalypse, the Book of Revelation, and in his replies to the criticisms of Lee. The science of assembling these manuscripts is called "Textual Criticism", and you can . Lets begin with Erasmus. Thats definitely possible maybe even likely but by no means certain. Again, Westcott and Hort were mistaken as nearly all major textual variants had appeared before the year 200. That will take a willingness on your part and revelation on Gods. But the principle remains that the Vaticanus scribe certainly wasnt top tier. I havent seen the promise of perfect preservation of Scripture in Scripture, or I would believe it. These two passages go together because 1 Peter 1:24-25 is quoting Isaiah 40:8. (The other being the 1995 NASB). 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. He knew these sacred springs were not muddied with human fancies. Thomas Watson (from A Body of Divinity). Okay, heres my question for you: which single document that we have contains the complete, inerrant New Testament without any issues at all? There are good mathematical reasons (which well look at) for this method. However, theres a very big problem when someone makes a dogmatic doctrinal position without the support of scripture. If you do, the Majority Text would look radically different than the mostly pure Byzantine Majority Text that currently comprises the Majority Text. Your thoughts I would appreciate. If you pick up any popular Bible (except the KJV and NKJV) its almost certainly translated primarily from the Alexandrian text type. Or perhaps youd use all of three, using the combination to correct the few small variants between them. I like the textual basis of the TR slightly better, but prefer the NASB95s features and especially its treatment of gender. Now that I have answered your questions, will you keep your word and answer mine? Did that disprove the promise of preservation? And all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. To understand why they didnt use any Byzantine readings, we need to look at their 3rd rule again: A reading combining two simple, alternative readings is later than the two readings comprising the combination. Further, remember that latter readings were ignored by Westcott & Hort. Textual Variants that are Meaningful, but not viable. Most modern translations are based on the Nestle-Aland/United Bible Society (NA/UBS) text, published by the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft (German Bible Society). On which manuscript(s) should we base our translations? Jesus Christ, Gods only begotten Son, is the Word made flesh that dwelt among us (II Corinthians 5:21; Romans 5:8-9; Romans 3:20-28; Acts 20:28; Romans 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:14; Colossians 1:20; Ephesians 2:8-10; Revelations 1:5). Again, over 75% of all Textual Variants are not meaningful, even if they are viable. More importantly, Erasmus references in sundry of his letters some of the manuscripts he used. IT is a better translation of the somewhat corrupt TR than the KJV. I suppose if you know where all the errors are, you might want to make them publicly known so that they can be corrected. Therefore, if line of reasoning interests you, you can read more here. As soon as the numbers of a minority exceed what can be explained by accidental coincidence, their agreement can only be explained on genealogical grounds. You will find more additions than subtractions. Apparently, the note-writer regarded Codex Vaticanus as a museum-piece to be protected and preserved, rather than as a copy of Scripture to be used as such. Their rules for textual Criticism are below: (Note: I condensed these from here, at the bottom of the page.). As most of the 5700 manuscripts are the type that was used in the King James/New King James, which sometimes uses renderings not found in the Greek manuscripts, especially in Revelation, where the Latin Vulgate Bible was copied and translated into Greek and used in the KJV and the NKJV did not correct it. 2 Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her, In reality, the distribution is never that perfect. Most often, they are simple scribal errors. is the same as that of the tenth-century minuscules.43, 23. It is the wisdom of the world that is foolishness to God. The Alexandrian text type will need little introduction because nearly all modern Bibles are based on the Alexandrian text type. Introduction to the New Testament in the Original Greek: With Notes on Selected Readings by Westcott & Hort. . Here is a short summary of each theory, with more detail to follow in theorys section. By Bakershalfdozen July 14, 2008 in The Bible (KJV) Share More sharing options. More sharing options. I just bought a World English Bible.This is where the World English Bible (also known as the WEB Bible) comes to the rescue. Obviously some arent, but that article makes the differences sound much larger than they actually are. The Biblical Case for the Doctrine of Preservation, The Biggest Problem with the Confessional Position, Okay, But is the Textus Receptus a good Document?, Summary of the Critical Text vs. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. Now, the first document to be called Textus Receptus was published in 1633. However, theres another problem thats far more practical. (as shown in the article) Further, which Textus Receptus should we use? The TR had the singular in 1550 but was changed to the plural in the 1894 TR. Again, they believed that the Byzantine Text type was a combination of the Alexandrian and Western text types. Be careful my friend. I fear the same about you. I supplied the Greek out of our Latin version. Thus there were places in which it is unclear what the Greek basis of the New Testament was. The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. The Majority Text vs. Theres no proof of that, but its possible. You should keep your mouth shut. There were already ten major periods of persecution of Christians before Nicea: One of the most ruthless of these persecutions was that of Diocletian in the early 4th century. but this clause in red is Im truly awed that someone created a single sentence for marketing that has echoed through the centuries. You might think this based on empirical/research grounds, not on a confession of faith. Almost all of the oldest manuscripts we have are of the Alexandrian text type, probably due to the climate in the location where they are typically found (Alexandrian is in Egypt, and their dry climate is ideal for preservation.) How does this article fold in with the Best Bible Version article? Or at least, He would preserve a true version for His faithful followers. The single most common textual variant is called a moveable Nu, with Nu being the Greek letter which sounds like our N. Comments made on Psalm 12:7 are either intentionally or mistakenly deceptive and misleading. The short version is this. Tischendorf also that said he: counted 14,800 alterations and corrections in Sinaiticus. He goes on to say: The New Testamentis extremely unreliableon many occasions 10, 20, 30, 40, words are droppedletters, words, even whole sentences are frequently written twice over, or begun and immediately canceled. In about half of these instances, the Authorized Version translators appear to follow the earlier 1550 Greek Textus Receptus of Estienne. I am concerned that we let others tell us what to believe when we do have a sure word of prophecy. Thats both amazing and very scary. Consequently, their New Testament relied heavily on the two earliest (nearly) complete manuscripts we have: Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, which well look at in detail shortly, Since these were the two oldest (nearly) complete texts available at the time, Westcott & Hort gave them tremendous weight. Differences Between the Majority Text and the Textus Receptus by Luke Wayne | Oct 31, 2018 | Minor Groups & Issues, King James Onlyism It is extremely common for King James Only advocates to conflate the "Majority Text" (M-Text) with the " Textus Receptus " (TR), or the tradition of printed Greek texts behind the King James Version. Textus Receptus, the manuscript tradition behind the KJV and many other Bibles, reads ho monogens huios. Okay, answering in order then: No, no, not quite since theres the Holy Spirit, no, and because the NASB 95 has superior translation which makes it overall better than other translations based on texts which you might consider superior. The translation is quite in order and your accusation of intentional mistranslation is unfounded. I finally feel i have a grasp on the topic. The WEB is the first major translation to use the Majority Text. Thank you. Thank you. It goes like this: Please imagine that you were a scribe charged with copying the New Testament. Well look more at how we got to the present Greek Critical Text soon. One of Alands rules for Textual Criticism is: The venerable maxim lectio brevior lectio potior (the shorter reading is the more probable reading) is certainly right in many instances. 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